Cloning question - and a crash

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MarkT
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Cloning question - and a crash

Post by MarkT »

I notice different behaviour when cloning in PWP8 from PWP7. Make a selection, then click+hold to paint the selection over a wider area. In PWP7, the selection picks up the "new" pixels, while PWP8 picks up the "old" pixels... Here's some pictures to illustrate:

PWP7
clone_pwp7_small.jpg
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PWP8
clone_pwp8_small.jpg
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I'd prefer the way PWP7 handles it, but I'm wondering if the change was deliberate?

Also, I found that when making this example, when the mouse drags beyond the edge of the image window PWP8 crashes.
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Re: Cloning question - and a crash

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You're right - it's not supposed to work that way.
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Re: Cloning question - and a crash

Post by MarkT »

Hi Jonathan,
Just installed 20-April-2018, and it seems that the cloning has reverted to its previous state - copying the old pixels instead of the new pixels...
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Re: Cloning question - and a crash

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I haven't fixed that yet, just the out of bounds crashing. Don't worry, I have it on my list.
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Re: Cloning question - and a crash

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Ah, sorry, I misunderstood.
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Re: Cloning question - and a crash

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I came back to this and realized I had misunderstood your original post.

Yes, the difference is deliberate.

In PWP8, when cloning an image onto itself, pixels are taken from the results of the previous strokes instead of from the current image. This avoids the problem of overlapping source and target areas causing the same part of the image to be repeated over and over as you drag the tool, which is seldom a desirable effect. As long as the source and target areas do not overlap, PWP8 should be the same as PWP7.
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Re: Cloning question - and a crash

Post by MarkT »

I guess I've gotten used to how PWP7 does cloning. PWP7 is different from other software is in this respect, and I find that when replacing large areas of texture the method used in PWP7 makes it much easier:
clone_detail_pwp7-1.jpg
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The way PWP8 (and other programs) does cloning, means more work, in this type of situation:
clone_detail_pwp8-1.jpg
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I'm wondering if this might be something that could be an "option" for the tool. To be able to switch between the cloning methods depending on the situation?
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Re: Cloning question - and a crash

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While I think the method you are using only works in a very limited number of cases, I have added a setting (Overlapped On/Off) to the Clone tool so you can set it back the way it used to be (by turning Overlapped On).
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Re: Cloning question - and a crash

Post by MarkT »

Thank you very much Jonathan!
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